I lost my prediction privileges when Putin moved on Ukraine, so all I can say is I have no clue what's going on. I tend to agree with Clandestine, though, that the risks are enormous. It wouldn't take much for a patriot to fly off the handle. I'm actually shocked that hasn't happened yet. (Didn't the story about that guy in Ohio go away pretty quick?)
I think arresting Fauci would be better. First of all, it's going to happen sooner or later, and secondly, it couldn't possibly trigger widespread unrest or violence. Maybe the soft, weak remnants of Antifa would throw a couple rocks, but that would actually be great.
Yes, Fauci is another very good possibility. And it wouldn't be the arrest that would trigger the awakening, it's the "unseal" via indictment, that is the reasoning behind his arrest.
Q3717 ends with “they will fight but we are ready”, implying that the first arrest will cause “them” to fight. I dont think that would happen with a Trump arrest. just my 2 cents.
hmmm....welll, it doesn't say the arrest will cause them to fight; only that "they will fight." Which, of course, they will. And those words lead straight into the point he was making from it: that we are ready.
First indictment was Michael Sussman and we know how that turned out. Maybe that wasn't the indictment Q was referring to as it definitely didn't trigger mass pop awakening when half the country didn't even know who he was!
Dec 17 2019 17:03:45 (EST)
First indictment [unseal] will trigger mass pop awakening.
First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction.
1) All Past POTUS' have SS detail for life; so jailing is not an option; perhaps House Arrest then.
2) Anyone who has been paying attention and researching, reading, watching and listening know that Obama, Holder, etal are behind these events since BEFORE PDJT announced his bid for President in 2015. I dare say the Bush and (of course) Clinton cabals are also involved in dramatic fashion.
3) Big Question: Presidential Legacy of Clinton, Bush(s) and Obama come into play here if such an historical, civil war-like event were to occur.
Does anyone REALLY BELIEVE that any one of the afore-mentioned past Presidents would want their legacy tainted by such an attack on a Constitutionally Elected President of the United States, based solely on political ideology?
It's good theatre but I truly believe it would not happen in our Constitutional Republic, even though, Obama and Holder did, in fact, create and weaponize the DOJ, as they created the NSD in order to attack their political opponents. You will note that the FBI-NSD agents who carried out the RAID at Mara-Lago, were also the SAME agents directly involved in Cross-Fire Hurricane, and all things Russia-Gate.
4) Name that Crime!
"Underestimate Donald J. Trump at your own peril." ~ Wilbur Ross (The Businessman warning many years ago.)
I neglected to emphasize: Donald J. Trump (person and President of the United States), has 4th Amendment Rights; which the DOJ/FBI-NSD blatantly walked all over.
Also, in fairness, our Constitutional rights have gone out the window as far as the left is concerned. All of DJT rights were attacked when they walked into Mar-a-Largo!! THEY JUST DON'T CARE about our rights!!
In retrospect, I always thought the first arrest would be the Pope as that truly would 'shock the world'. I've been tossing around the Trump arrest for a while now, and as I do see the upside to the ultimate reveal, I also see a stain on Trump that would never disappear in the minds of the anti-Trumper's. Said people are the ones that need to be awakened (not us) and I believe his arrest will only solidify their contempt for him, no matter what is proven in the way of his innocence. The slings and arrows he has taken for we the people are the exact same that have planted the towering Sequoia's of doubt with him in their minds. An information war, like FISA and PsyOp's, works both ways.
Will they ever really see/believe the truth? This is my personal cognitive battle ;) BUT, I will keep pushing forward for the truth to be revealed and wait for the next chess move to be played.
That said, I think narrative whiplash is a major thing, and I think if the narrative was played right, Trump could actually become a sympathetic figure to the reachable left.
You really think their brains will change from TDS to MAGA? They might be the % that's too rigid to change. Hopefully we'll be able to change some, not all will be receptive. It's sad, but true.
(Unless we can get the msm to tell them & "re-brainwash" them, I doubt they'll even listen.)
I don't think they need to become MAGA. All they need is to see a common enemy. When people know they have been lied to, they can find the capacity for change.
I agree with this article entirely, but I would posit this: if President Trump is arrested, the cabal absolutely HAS TO prime it - there must be a very public, very dramatic explanation already in place to carry the assent of the average citizen to such an unprecedented move. It will be bs of course, but there has to be something. The recent 'document raid' simply isn't enough. We should have plenty of forewarning in other words. If there is no forewarning, and he is simply arrested- in all honesty, that would tell me we are watching an entirely fabricated movie, and I will get the popcorn out. The cabal are dumb... but not that dumb.
I agree that they might try that, they are indeed that evil. However if poking some extreme reaction to justify force was enough I think they would have already done it. Judgement call though, and I won't quibble, you may well be right.
I keep up with the pulse of both sides on most platforms. Even though it sickens me to tune in to the leftists and their borderline psychotic ranting , a Trump arrest would send them into euphoria, and that alone would enrage the Maga crowd.
Many/most Patriots are on edge already with just Trump’s house being raided, it wouldn’t take much for their patience to end in country damaging fashion. It would be exactly what the DS wants. Can that be risked? IMO it would get vicious real quick.
Many thought that way with the Election... would [they] really go there, Steal an Election? And yet, here we are.
Use the 3Ps of Analysis. Is a Trump arrest possible? Yes. Is it plausible? Yes. Is it probable? I'll leave that to those who are in the know. Which none of us are.
We are approaching our destination. Please be sure your seatbacks and tray tables are in the up right and locked position, fasten your seatbelts and grab the 🍿🍿🍿
Agreed. I don't think it's going to happen, but for folks saying MAGA would riot, I disagree. Didn't riot after the election was stolen. Wouldn't riot now.
Agreed. MAGA will NOT riot. However, Antifa or Fed bois dressed in MAGA "team jerseys" (ie J6) may provide that illusion. If that happens, it 'might' happen close to Election Day. I still believe [they] will do something/ anything to prevent this massive Red Wave that [they] know is coming. NCSWIC
Well, consider that it might only take one angry wacko with a maga hat on - even if an FBI plant or controlled person - to light the tinder that is our current reality.
I don’t trust anything about a “planned” Trump arrest. Too many things could go wrong. Murdered or beaten in jail by a deep state operative would cause a massive civil war. Isn’t that what they want?
A trump arrest? Possible and I’m sure the WHite Hats have a plan, but guessing the courts will slow down the FBI/DOJ with procedures, and a demand for actual evidence, and raw data. I don’t think they will be allowed to hide behind National Security like they usually do. Because of this. The public will have more access they they are usually allowed. ( I think Cannon made the first step) with the Special Master. By the time it would matter. Guessing Trump will have kicked off the offensive. Durham is but one salvo. Guessing an arrest of Hunter in the future. As well as a large crackdown on sex trafficking. ( break up the income of the elites)…. From there into elections, we will see riots, and blackouts. ( now military can act.) as many of the rioters will be foreign nationals. ( who crossed the border as illegal aliens. ( think 5th column. )).. elections might be postponed due to huge number of law suits about ( Chinese activity with election software) the ( psy. op) with #ThePit is gaining traction as we speak. Your already seeing lawsuits in smaller community to go to paper ballots only due to concerns over the electronic equipment. As more data emerges about #Konnech and those servers in wuhan. People are gonna flip. Now they have a target ( besides the FBI) and this one they can hit with the biggest hammer possible… Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania will be difficult. Very dirty courts especially the State supreme courts. But most will succeed. More then enough to change the make up of congress, state legislators, some Governors and SoS. Once this happens. The congressional over site hearings will begin. With a vengeance. And guessing these will be open to public to drive home the point of just how deep, and wide the swamp really is. Expect congress to close the purse until they get everything they want. Especially with FBI, dept of Education, dept of energy, and Federal Reserve. You might even see a complete gov. Shut down while congress digs in. But hey. I could be wrong and it could be a smooth and peaceful election and transfer of power to Conservative. Not holding my breath though.
That’s been an interesting thought for a little while now but I’m in Kyle’s camp.
The timing to get to the trial for the benefit of acquittal puts the timing of everything off by another year at least where as I see everything gaining speed as we approach the storm. I believe the next two months will change everything.
I also now see the exact same playbook as the Giuliani and Project Veritas raids.
Exactly.
They weren’t the targets and court documents proved that. The evidence on others was the target.
It’s the same with Trump.
It’s already setting precedent for the normies that media can be raided, and so can a past President and his lawyer.
The focus is on archives which is a tell sign.
It’s Obama that tried to classify the evidence of his crimes and hide them in his presidential library.
I believe that was the evidence handed to the FBI while the normies now see the FBI and DOJ are corrupt.....right before indictments of Obama FBI and DOJ players.
I too, agree with Clandestine. The country is at a boiling point and arresting Trump will only make it worse. I know that is what the Deep State wants, a Civil War, but that won't solve any problems and will only leave death and destruction. I believe, it was maybe Kash Patel who said, they may just try and drag out an investigation for years that could stop Trump from running again.
Amazing to just be reading this almost two years late, indicating your incredible foresight!
If Trump’s conviction was part of the Plan, they threaded that needle with perfect precision. No violent uprising, just mass anger, further proof of Trump being targeted and the spotlight on our broken justice system, especially in NYC.
I don’t want Trump indicted….I think it would hurt too many good people and they could fall over the edge with all the rest of the crap going on. I know what I want doesn’t matter but…
Perhaps it's more accurate to say that whether he's indicted or not, either scenario can be leveraged to our advantage over a long enough timeframe. I don't think it's true that this is (or ever was) "The Plan." There is NOTHING good about a Trump arrest under the current circumstances.
OTOH, there are only so many fires the deep state can fight. And they keep setting more.
Clandestine is right. Americans can't make the leap to future arrests of BO, Biden, and other high profile political criminals. America needs to see the crimes. MSM blackout is the only way. We have been through this tease long enough.
I lost my prediction privileges when Putin moved on Ukraine, so all I can say is I have no clue what's going on. I tend to agree with Clandestine, though, that the risks are enormous. It wouldn't take much for a patriot to fly off the handle. I'm actually shocked that hasn't happened yet. (Didn't the story about that guy in Ohio go away pretty quick?)
I think arresting Fauci would be better. First of all, it's going to happen sooner or later, and secondly, it couldn't possibly trigger widespread unrest or violence. Maybe the soft, weak remnants of Antifa would throw a couple rocks, but that would actually be great.
Right. I agree overall, which is why I'm leaning away from it. Still, I thought it was worth the mental exercise.
Putin and Ukraine... blindsided... rat dare witcha, brother.
Yes, Fauci is another very good possibility. And it wouldn't be the arrest that would trigger the awakening, it's the "unseal" via indictment, that is the reasoning behind his arrest.
Q3717 ends with “they will fight but we are ready”, implying that the first arrest will cause “them” to fight. I dont think that would happen with a Trump arrest. just my 2 cents.
I agree overall. Just good mental exercise to consider alternatives.
hmmm....welll, it doesn't say the arrest will cause them to fight; only that "they will fight." Which, of course, they will. And those words lead straight into the point he was making from it: that we are ready.
First indictment was Michael Sussman and we know how that turned out. Maybe that wasn't the indictment Q was referring to as it definitely didn't trigger mass pop awakening when half the country didn't even know who he was!
Dec 17 2019 17:03:45 (EST)
First indictment [unseal] will trigger mass pop awakening.
First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction.
They will fight but you are ready.
Marker [9].
Q
Consider this:
1) All Past POTUS' have SS detail for life; so jailing is not an option; perhaps House Arrest then.
2) Anyone who has been paying attention and researching, reading, watching and listening know that Obama, Holder, etal are behind these events since BEFORE PDJT announced his bid for President in 2015. I dare say the Bush and (of course) Clinton cabals are also involved in dramatic fashion.
3) Big Question: Presidential Legacy of Clinton, Bush(s) and Obama come into play here if such an historical, civil war-like event were to occur.
Does anyone REALLY BELIEVE that any one of the afore-mentioned past Presidents would want their legacy tainted by such an attack on a Constitutionally Elected President of the United States, based solely on political ideology?
It's good theatre but I truly believe it would not happen in our Constitutional Republic, even though, Obama and Holder did, in fact, create and weaponize the DOJ, as they created the NSD in order to attack their political opponents. You will note that the FBI-NSD agents who carried out the RAID at Mara-Lago, were also the SAME agents directly involved in Cross-Fire Hurricane, and all things Russia-Gate.
4) Name that Crime!
"Underestimate Donald J. Trump at your own peril." ~ Wilbur Ross (The Businessman warning many years ago.)
In fairness, I do not believe the names you mention care about their political legacies.
They care about money and corruption.
But again, I don't think a Trump arrest is likely. Just good mental exercise.
I neglected to emphasize: Donald J. Trump (person and President of the United States), has 4th Amendment Rights; which the DOJ/FBI-NSD blatantly walked all over.
Not Good!
Also, in fairness, our Constitutional rights have gone out the window as far as the left is concerned. All of DJT rights were attacked when they walked into Mar-a-Largo!! THEY JUST DON'T CARE about our rights!!
Man I think it distinctly possible but it is a powder keg- even the most peaceful people can be pushed beyond their limits.
In retrospect, I always thought the first arrest would be the Pope as that truly would 'shock the world'. I've been tossing around the Trump arrest for a while now, and as I do see the upside to the ultimate reveal, I also see a stain on Trump that would never disappear in the minds of the anti-Trumper's. Said people are the ones that need to be awakened (not us) and I believe his arrest will only solidify their contempt for him, no matter what is proven in the way of his innocence. The slings and arrows he has taken for we the people are the exact same that have planted the towering Sequoia's of doubt with him in their minds. An information war, like FISA and PsyOp's, works both ways.
Will they ever really see/believe the truth? This is my personal cognitive battle ;) BUT, I will keep pushing forward for the truth to be revealed and wait for the next chess move to be played.
Thank you BB for another great read. Godspeed!
That said, I think narrative whiplash is a major thing, and I think if the narrative was played right, Trump could actually become a sympathetic figure to the reachable left.
You really think their brains will change from TDS to MAGA? They might be the % that's too rigid to change. Hopefully we'll be able to change some, not all will be receptive. It's sad, but true.
(Unless we can get the msm to tell them & "re-brainwash" them, I doubt they'll even listen.)
I don't think they need to become MAGA. All they need is to see a common enemy. When people know they have been lied to, they can find the capacity for change.
Here's hoping!
Thanks for your hard work!
Thank you for reading.
Addicted!
I agree with this article entirely, but I would posit this: if President Trump is arrested, the cabal absolutely HAS TO prime it - there must be a very public, very dramatic explanation already in place to carry the assent of the average citizen to such an unprecedented move. It will be bs of course, but there has to be something. The recent 'document raid' simply isn't enough. We should have plenty of forewarning in other words. If there is no forewarning, and he is simply arrested- in all honesty, that would tell me we are watching an entirely fabricated movie, and I will get the popcorn out. The cabal are dumb... but not that dumb.
But they are that evil. It would galvanize some into action that would let the regime use deadly force
I agree that they might try that, they are indeed that evil. However if poking some extreme reaction to justify force was enough I think they would have already done it. Judgement call though, and I won't quibble, you may well be right.
I keep up with the pulse of both sides on most platforms. Even though it sickens me to tune in to the leftists and their borderline psychotic ranting , a Trump arrest would send them into euphoria, and that alone would enrage the Maga crowd.
Many/most Patriots are on edge already with just Trump’s house being raided, it wouldn’t take much for their patience to end in country damaging fashion. It would be exactly what the DS wants. Can that be risked? IMO it would get vicious real quick.
Many thought that way with the Election... would [they] really go there, Steal an Election? And yet, here we are.
Use the 3Ps of Analysis. Is a Trump arrest possible? Yes. Is it plausible? Yes. Is it probable? I'll leave that to those who are in the know. Which none of us are.
We are approaching our destination. Please be sure your seatbacks and tray tables are in the up right and locked position, fasten your seatbelts and grab the 🍿🍿🍿
Agreed. I don't think it's going to happen, but for folks saying MAGA would riot, I disagree. Didn't riot after the election was stolen. Wouldn't riot now.
Agreed. MAGA will NOT riot. However, Antifa or Fed bois dressed in MAGA "team jerseys" (ie J6) may provide that illusion. If that happens, it 'might' happen close to Election Day. I still believe [they] will do something/ anything to prevent this massive Red Wave that [they] know is coming. NCSWIC
They will certainly try.
Well, consider that it might only take one angry wacko with a maga hat on - even if an FBI plant or controlled person - to light the tinder that is our current reality.
I agree
I don’t trust anything about a “planned” Trump arrest. Too many things could go wrong. Murdered or beaten in jail by a deep state operative would cause a massive civil war. Isn’t that what they want?
Not buying into this theory!
A trump arrest? Possible and I’m sure the WHite Hats have a plan, but guessing the courts will slow down the FBI/DOJ with procedures, and a demand for actual evidence, and raw data. I don’t think they will be allowed to hide behind National Security like they usually do. Because of this. The public will have more access they they are usually allowed. ( I think Cannon made the first step) with the Special Master. By the time it would matter. Guessing Trump will have kicked off the offensive. Durham is but one salvo. Guessing an arrest of Hunter in the future. As well as a large crackdown on sex trafficking. ( break up the income of the elites)…. From there into elections, we will see riots, and blackouts. ( now military can act.) as many of the rioters will be foreign nationals. ( who crossed the border as illegal aliens. ( think 5th column. )).. elections might be postponed due to huge number of law suits about ( Chinese activity with election software) the ( psy. op) with #ThePit is gaining traction as we speak. Your already seeing lawsuits in smaller community to go to paper ballots only due to concerns over the electronic equipment. As more data emerges about #Konnech and those servers in wuhan. People are gonna flip. Now they have a target ( besides the FBI) and this one they can hit with the biggest hammer possible… Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania will be difficult. Very dirty courts especially the State supreme courts. But most will succeed. More then enough to change the make up of congress, state legislators, some Governors and SoS. Once this happens. The congressional over site hearings will begin. With a vengeance. And guessing these will be open to public to drive home the point of just how deep, and wide the swamp really is. Expect congress to close the purse until they get everything they want. Especially with FBI, dept of Education, dept of energy, and Federal Reserve. You might even see a complete gov. Shut down while congress digs in. But hey. I could be wrong and it could be a smooth and peaceful election and transfer of power to Conservative. Not holding my breath though.
Worth being ready for any and all possibilities, for sure.
That’s been an interesting thought for a little while now but I’m in Kyle’s camp.
The timing to get to the trial for the benefit of acquittal puts the timing of everything off by another year at least where as I see everything gaining speed as we approach the storm. I believe the next two months will change everything.
I also now see the exact same playbook as the Giuliani and Project Veritas raids.
Exactly.
They weren’t the targets and court documents proved that. The evidence on others was the target.
It’s the same with Trump.
It’s already setting precedent for the normies that media can be raided, and so can a past President and his lawyer.
The focus is on archives which is a tell sign.
It’s Obama that tried to classify the evidence of his crimes and hide them in his presidential library.
I believe that was the evidence handed to the FBI while the normies now see the FBI and DOJ are corrupt.....right before indictments of Obama FBI and DOJ players.
FISA is the start.
Table is being set.
Great thought provoking article BB!
Blessings
This is currently where I'm leaning as well. Thanks for reading Joe.
I too, agree with Clandestine. The country is at a boiling point and arresting Trump will only make it worse. I know that is what the Deep State wants, a Civil War, but that won't solve any problems and will only leave death and destruction. I believe, it was maybe Kash Patel who said, they may just try and drag out an investigation for years that could stop Trump from running again.
Certainly a possibility.
Thank You BB🙏
Amazing to just be reading this almost two years late, indicating your incredible foresight!
If Trump’s conviction was part of the Plan, they threaded that needle with perfect precision. No violent uprising, just mass anger, further proof of Trump being targeted and the spotlight on our broken justice system, especially in NYC.
I very much try to focus on the macro and storytelling so these pieces stand the test of time :)
I don’t want Trump indicted….I think it would hurt too many good people and they could fall over the edge with all the rest of the crap going on. I know what I want doesn’t matter but…
Perhaps it's more accurate to say that whether he's indicted or not, either scenario can be leveraged to our advantage over a long enough timeframe. I don't think it's true that this is (or ever was) "The Plan." There is NOTHING good about a Trump arrest under the current circumstances.
OTOH, there are only so many fires the deep state can fight. And they keep setting more.
I think this is a good way to frame things. This is the Game Theory reading of the situation, which I tend to agree with.
Clandestine is right. Americans can't make the leap to future arrests of BO, Biden, and other high profile political criminals. America needs to see the crimes. MSM blackout is the only way. We have been through this tease long enough.
It's a valid perspective for sure.