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Donald Trump, Joe Rogan and the Ultimate Table-Setter

It hasn’t even been 48 hours yet, and no doubt you’ve heard, seen … or at the very least, heard or seen someone who’s heard or seen.

Donald Trump appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, Episode #2219, to be exact, for 2 Hours and 58 minutes (making it a bit shorter than your average

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appearance on

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,) but then I’m not going to short our boy Trump, given that he sandwiched the marathon session between campaign rallies.

The man is a machine, he’s lauded for being a machine by those he counts among his growing, surging, utterly unflappable base … and, in a bitter twist, a different sort of machine by his—and by our—sociopolitical enemies.

And yet, the key to this sit-down with the most famous/infamous podcaster in the world with the most famous/infamous … well—I was going to say politician—but that doesn’t do it justice, now does it? How about man?

Anyway, the key to this sit-down was the fact that it happened at all.

Donald Trump is—I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say it—the most famous and infamous man in the world, and I would submit, by the time his story is wrapped, and by the time we’ve had the chance to begin etching it into the annals of true history—I’ve already got a head start!—he might be on the shortlist for the global Mt. Rushmore.

Not for politicians. For men.

That’s how transformative many of us see not just Trump himself, but the era he’s helped to usher in.

Hell, even many who decry him as a pariah, cast him out of all the orthodoxy we’ll let them keep—may it warm them in the far reaches of their many nihilist nights to come—and even those who’ve been swept up in the wake of the awakening he sparked, if not ushered in, have turned to labeling him a ‘God King’ in the most sardonic lens, not fully appreciating the power a memetic inversion of such a term could be and has been for a generation of American men, women, and the heirs they would set upon this earth.

But then … this was meant to be a Brief, right?

The point I had half a mind to make somewhere along the way up above was that this conversation between Donald Trump and Joe Rogan—like many of the former’s deployments in the Info War that doubles as a War of Stories—isn’t really meant for us, nor for the legions of normie-adjacent Trump voters who’ve already made up their minds ahead of the November 5 inflection point.

This conversation was simply to show the man within the machine, and, thanks to a fair, dare I say gilded introduction by Rogan himself, who speaks to and for tens of millions of reachable independents and disaffected lefties—I used to BE one of these—it showed Trump as the man who stands OPPOSED to the machine.

And so, Trump is the man who acts as the ultimate reverse indicator in a war often defined by them; if that is the rubric we’ll use to judge such a deployment from the Trump and America First perspective on either side of the success/failure binary where it concerns this mass culture event masquerading as a podcast, I’d lean heavily toward the former.

And so, if we leave Rogan’s intentions to the side for the time being, what can we make of his introduction, when examined from the perspective of a rather unique (and VERY large) subset of normies who watch his show, from societal renegades who first did to the disaffected liberal and independents he’s pulled into his wake as a byproduct of the machine shedding them, as they once shed me? As they shed each and every one of you?

In short, Trump is the antithesis of the System. He’s the anti-candidate. The Loki in this grand American mythology we’re still in the midst of reimagining.

This is a foundational red pill that can be reverse engineered, as all negative indicators can be, hence their inherent signal. And Trump is THE negative indicator.

For what?

The System, and on two counts—Bicameral, you might say:

That the System exists. And that it hates you, just as it hates him.

More.

And yet, I don’t think this appearance was about garnering more votes for the Orange Man, though I’m sure it did.

I think it was about stoking the fires of public mandate. Of both setting and reseting paradigms.

To wit, isn’t it somewhat shocking that it’s somewhat shocking that a presidential candidate sat down for a candid, free-form interview with someone who not only hasn’t publicly endorsed him, but who could well do the opposite—HAS done the opposite—in the past?

Has the paint-by-numbers pablum that has become of the American political parade calcified to such a degree that to simply see a public figure, well, BE a person, and with another person, with no set agenda between them, come not just as something pregnant with potential scandal to the media protectorate, but something refreshingly mundane to the plebs they would lord over from the thrones onto which they deposited themselves not just in opposition to, but in spite of the very public mandate Trump seeks to cultivate, to gather unto him on the final stretch … and most importantly, to represent?

THAT is what “the conversation”—which already has close to 30 Million views on YouTube alone, putting it in easy striking distance of the most-watched podcasts of all time—has accomplished, while providing the opportunity to catch glimpses of the real beneath all the unreal, stretched over such a spread of time.

Opinions vary in this community over the relative worth and intentions of a figure like Joe Rogan. While I started listening to his podcast more than a decade ago, picking it up from other fighters I was training with in the Boston area—where Rogan not only grew up, but where he was renowned as a prized kickboxer long before his entertaining days—I can honestly say I never believed he would come to be known as the most famous “personality” in new media.

But that’s exactly what has happened, and it’s owed largely to a format he effectively pioneered … long-form, unscripted podcasts wherein one curious, intelligent man of varied interests and obsessions asks about and is asked about by another.

And so, in hindsight, aside from Rogan’s similar philosophical path as a (former) disaffected Northeast liberal—and given the fact that I’m familiar with his sense of humor and conversation style—the magic word that described his appeal to me as a young man, and to literally hundreds of millions more over the ensuing years, is at least the perception of authenticity.

Authenticity.

That’s what Donald Trump represents, in a word, is it not?

For everything else we can say about the man—good, bad and often everything in between … but mostly GREAT—he is nothing if not decidedly authentic. It’s the feeling he gives off, the vibe nobody needs to check where it concerns him, and the holy water to the media and political vampires that have assailed him—unsuccessfully—for the better part of a decade, now, and with no end in sight, lest we make an end of them in terms of public perception.

And that’s exactly what I said the point would be in the lead-up to the conversation that will come to stand as one of Trump’s crowning achievements in the Culture War, oft ignored to the peril of the conservative base.

Trump has already won the public narrative.

The Trump-Rogan conversation is going to be the most watched of all time, likely dwarfing the Rogan-Elon convo by a healthy margin.

And yet, for all the sound bytes that are sure to come out of it, it's actually not about the substance of the conversation, but the fact that it's happening at all that is already working as a massive paradigm shift.

While some probably have their hopes built up to hearing mass disclosures on the most-viewed podcast in the world, I think this one's going to be pretty casual and friendly, much like Trump's recent tour of alt. media-adjacent and YouTube sit-downs have been.

The Collective Mind may be behind, but they're not nearly as stupid as the machine thinks they are. It's not about what Trump says, it's about his recognition that long-form, organic conversation is the future of public narrative, something Kamala Harris literally cannot abide.

Authenticity is the currency of the future.

Trump has it.

That was what I said the day before the interview, and I’d say it held up remarkably well … accepting that it wasn’t a particularly difficult prediction to make.

Safe, even.

And while the subjects Rogan and Trump covered were fairly safe in the traditional sense of the word, the fact that Trump would venture where Harris—and those of her ilk—wouldn’t dare says enough about how much of a perceived “risk” it really was, not so much for the lack of ability to control Rogan on his own platform, literally in his own house, but more so for the lack of ability to control what a “weaving,” some would say, free-form, meandering Trump might say on his best day, never mind his worst when given that much room to run.

That’s a feature of Trump’s appeal, not a bug, and whatever political and social confidants of the big man once thought they might be able to control, or perhaps to guide have long since given up the thought, and left him to manage his own mastery of narrative.

Which is to say, of stories, something I have been writing about for some time in these digital pages, and something he’s increasingly taking ownership of in his own measured, playful way.

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In terms of subject matter, the conversation was a table-setter, one that I suspect will take on much more meaning to the normie layers of the Collective Mind AFTER the events of the coming months than before.

Seeds were planted into new minds, shocking as that may be for some of you to read, given the engineered digital archipelago the Mind War has become, with various walled gardens of tech, politics and subculture increasingly giving up the ghost on fighting over a bigger slice of the battlefield, and rather coalescing and condensing, drawing inward rather than venturing outward.

And while the subjects of the seeds ran the gamut on everything this community has been delving into for years—some of us, for decades—on everything from globalism to capitalism, healthcare to the two-party system, aliens to whale psychology … err, well, sometimes things get a little weird in the weave, do they not?—there was no new ground covered for us.

And so, if you’re reading the word, “seed” and “new” and coming away feeling somehow dejected or deflated at the perceived distance we still have to travel in the awakening era, I would submit to you that, given the state of the Info War at present that doubles as a Mind War, and given the Crisis Cascade even the media establishment is now shamelessly aping from the pages of Burning Bright—okay, so maybe they’re just observing the same thing we have been several years late—I expect that these particular seeds will have a rapid, and yes, somewhat traumatic germination phase relative to ours, as the drip, drip, drip of exposure and disclosure transforms into the flood that was promised.

Only this one won’t wash us away, but rather our ignorance, our blindness, and so, it will restore to our sleeping brothers and sisters the sight that had been taken from them, and the truths kept hidden away.

And yes, it will also reveal all the creeping, crawling, many-spined and many-legged, toothy horrors on the exposed beaches of the Collective Mind.

Things that look somewhat less threatening without the dark swells to cover them. Things that look lurching and afraid as the moon gives way to the rising dawn. Things whose shells begin to crack and whose black eyes begin to dry to raisins in the judgment of the sun’s rays, if our torches don’t burn them out first.

With all of that said, while it might seem like there wasn’t a lot for this more engaged, deeper-dug audience could pull from what likely served as a long-form “re” intro to Trumpism, that doesn’t mean we can’t dig. Because that’s what Anons do.

So, before we get to the tasty rhetorical morsels that caught my mind’s eye beneath the surface noise in this one, if you’re new around these parts, you might want to earmark this one for later, wherein I lay out the ‘Trump Aside,’ as a means of explaining one of the key vectors of Trump’s narrative fighting style.

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(Trump has since taken to calling this technique, ‘the weave,’ in a blatant attempt to avoid crediting ‘The Master’ series … but we’ll let him have it, for now.)

Now then, here are a few nuggets that struck me as containing a bit more signal than meets the eye at first blush:

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“It was kind of like two lives.”

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This was Trump’s response to Rogan asking him what it was like to go from one of the most revered men in America to the most hated man by the very establishment that had been singing his praises for decades before that.

The man who went from judging presidents to being one.

To the normie layers of the Collective Mind, the statement is as innocuous as it is sensible.

Trump was NOT the president, and he was loved by the machine.

Then he WAS the president, and so, he was hated by it.

And yet, to this audience, the words recall the foundational theories of the Info War—theories you’ve been exposed to, that you likely hold if you even know there’s an Info War going on.

From ‘Trump as Batman’ to ‘The Plan to Save the World,’ to the Temporal Trump Card I’ll close this Brief with that I’ve been writing and commenting on since my introduction to the Info War, it’s been like two lives for Donald Trump … and that goes much farther than many of us ever knew.

And MUCH farther than any of [them] ever feared.

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“92% politicians and 8% generals.”

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This was how Trump described the general makeup of all 44 presidents to precede him.

And he’s entirely correct.

Every US President before Trump had either held some small or large American elected office before ascending to the highest one in the land, or else they had commanded Americans in direct answer to that office before making their way to it, from George Washington to Dwight Eisenhower.

Some of these men were good and some decidedly not, and a good number might have been more mediocre and mundane than any here would like to believe.

But the fact remains that Donald Trump was an outsider in a way few, if any were before him, a representative defined by NOT being one in a system as corrupt as the regimes it was meant to replace.

And so, this particular statement hit me with renewed purpose and meaning, given the very recent digs on Eisenhower, Kennedy and yes, Trump myself,

Jon Herold

and other Info Warriors have been on lately concerning the return of true American power projection to the civilian rather than military ranks for the first time in a long time, as detailed in Friday’s Brief … (Scroll down to the ‘Big Dig’ section.)

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The Electephant in the Room …

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One of the more auspicious and encouraging bits of signal I believe I perceived in the conversation came in the midst of Rogan’s prodding regarding Trump’s allegations of election fraud from November 2020, something that likely drove many of us into the deepest and darkest digs of the Info War since the advent of Q in order to put the pieces back together again, and something the aforementioned Herold’s Devolution Research will stand the test of time as the world’s foremost guide book regarding.

In short, Trump said he “owed it to the American people” to give them free and fair elections going forward.

That says precisely NOTHING about how the election of 2024 is wont to play out, and I personally believe there will be shenanigans aplenty, but just as I believe the “steal” in 2020 was both accounted for and allowed so this era of awakening and pending unification might play out—among the MANY actuals I’ve documented exhaustively in the Weapons of the Future series—I sincerely believe that any attempted or actualized theft of a second consecutive election will be met with a more swift and immediate remedy, should the public mandate require it.

And that mandate has been stoked and fired, my friends. Of that, I am quite certain, and given just a few more pushes at the right angles and in the right direction—toward the edge, which is to say, the precipice—that stoked mandate and the fire that animates it will come to realize the same thing all fire does that seeks to prolong its finite, beautiful life just a little longer:

The only way out is through.

To wit, Donald Trump has put out three Cease & Desist letters in the last two months while the media machine mongers about Orange Hitler 2.0.

In said official statements, he's promising the biggest prosecution tour in American history ... and for a stolen election.

In other words, Trump has said all he needs to, for those with the ears to hear it, and yes, that is Bicameral. 

For us … and for them. And I suspect this is the rare case where the latter is the signal.

To wit, I often say that you can learn a lot, watching things lie, and to that I hold.

That said, negative indicators abound in the Info War, and often, the machine tells you what they truly fear most by what they DON'T say rather than what they do.

The ghost of the fictional Orange Man gropes someone thirty years ago?

PRINT IT! Should get about as much play as the also fake GHOST OF KEEV!

Two unnamed sources close to the situation make up some shit for the six thousandth time of the last seven years?

FRONT PAGE!

Trump releases three identical statements promising the most tireless and emphatic justice campaign of all time directed at the very media fraud apparatus arrayed against him?

Crickets …

My friend … we’re not casting our final vote on 11/5, ladies and gentlemen.

[They] are.

The progenitors and inheritors of the vast and yet, vulnerable machine that, for all its intricacies can be undone by pulling the right thread at the right time.

So, do they go down with the ship, or jump off, and make for the shore where they’ll join the dried out husks of those who tried before them, and yet, still too late for it to matter?

"Quick trials."

You know the rest.

Again, Trump said he “owes it” to the American people to have free and fair elections.

That implies an endgame, not the journey to it, and I think keeping that in mind will help to steady you in the storms to come.

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For Legacy … and For Family

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By far my favorite bits of perceived signal dropped in this one concerned the sparse, albeit poignant references to the legacy of JFK.

To wit, Trump's first aside in his conversation with Joe Rogan introduced a curious kernel about Melania's dress on inauguration day.

As many Anons know, she was wearing a replica of Jackie Kennedy's "Tiffany Blue" dress, which is why Trump constantly references Tiffany's Diamonds in relation to the 2020 election steal.

But the Trump-Kennedy connections go MUCH deeper than just those many in this community are aware of between Trump and JFK Jr.

As my good friend

Patrick Gunnels

pointed out to me on Friday night, one of Trump's grandchildren was named Arabella, likely after JFK's firstborn, who was stillborn.

Was Arabella one of many promises to counter?

Additionally, JFK was accused of election fraud by the Military Industrial Complex he subverted, and he was ALSO accused of being a Russian puppet for Nikita Khrushchev.

Sound familiar?

What’s more, let’s take a look at what another Kennedy thought about Trump on Rogan …

“Authenticity with honest thought.”

Good way to put it, Robert …

Might be why you were the subject of one of my most popular features of the year, and very recently …

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And there HAS been a Convergence, one that runs along reality layers and layers of the Collective Mind.

As for me, I firmly believe we're watching the continuation of a plan that went into effect in the 1960s. One that will lead to mass unification through historic catharsis.

And you know who seems to agree with me?

“It’s sort of … a cleansing,” Donald Trump said in reference to the need for full disclosure of the JFK Files to the American people during his second (public) term.

Sort of sounds like a unification, now doesn’t it?

Say … where’d you hear that before?

And so, I’d like to leave you new and returning readers with one of my personal favorite pieces around these parts, one that was intended—and one that I think just might—stand the test of the very time it attempts to unify.

From Temporal Trump Card:

Kennedy attempted to start this Crisis Cascade of the System of Systems, but he was alone, and it was cut short, along with his life. Others picked up the baton, and were similarly silenced, or neutered.

And then, we saw the rise of Trump, who used the weapons of the enemy against them (along with those behind him,) in a manner that wielded the Cultural (prime entertainment archetype,) and Narrative (political warfare,) with Game Theory, along with the likely backing of Military Intelligence, and the hints of a Sovereign Alliance of the most powerful leaders on the world stage, beliefs that were seeded by the Q Op and germinated through the observation of Trump’s first campaign and the Actual & Narrative wins that have taken place with a Bicameral view of his ‘second.’

And Trump is calling attention to them (and has been) in a way no president or American figure has before—not even Kennedy himself, though I believe Trump’s comms resurfacing that name are as much a promise to us as it is a threat to [them.]

Mirrored Men. Mirrored Admins. Mirrored Truths.

Only this time, the movie’s going to have a different ending. And it’s not just because Trump has better allies; it’s because he has US.

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Read it, and do anything but weep, my friends.

They rendered our dreams into nightmares, but the bill has come due, and we’ll have our reckoning, just as Trump and yes, I believe Kennedy will have theirs. The future is very bright, even if it’s not evenly distributed quite yet …

And I have a feeling it will be informed by a past they stole from us, but never quite managed to bury.

Until next time, stay Positive, stay Based and most importantly … stay Bright.

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